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Date:         Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:36:00 -0700
Reply-To:     Quantum Approaches to Consciousness
Sender:       Quantum Approaches to Consciousness
From:         Stuart Hameroff <hameroff@U.ARIZONA.EDU>
Subject:      [q-mind] Quantum Theory and Subjective Time - Adhanom Andemicael
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From Adhanom Andemicael <andemicael@WORLDNET.ATT.NET>

Readers interested in a description relating quantum theory and subjective time may refer to various posts that I submitted to this list last year (September-November, 1998). Additional material presented at the conference Tucson III is available at my web site: <>.

Before we can fully appreciate the role of the conscious observer in quantum theory, we must first grasp the nature of subjective time and its relation to physical reality:

Subjective Time Versus Physical Time

Let us consider two points or locations on the fourth physical dimension of relativistic theory--say the locations, "Jan. 1, 1950 AD" and "Jan. 1, 2450 AD." However, instead of referring to these points using "date terminology," let us simply refer to them as points "A" and "B."

Consider an individual "residing at" point A (in other words: a person who happens to be *observing* the matter/energy located at point A). How much time will elapse before this person is relocated to point B? The answer depends, of course, on this experiencer's velocity relative to the earth. (Gravitational effects, certainly, can also play a role, but I will ignore them here).

An individual who spends much of her life traveling at speeds close to that of the earth (e.g., car speeds, airplane speeds, etc.) will find that approximately 500 years *elapse* before she arrives at point B. However, a person travelling at velocities close to the speed of light will find that only a few hours or minutes, say, actually elapse before her arrival at B.

The reader can appreciate then that the physical distance separating two given points on this fourth dimension of physical reality cannot logically be described as "a period of time": this physical distance has nothing to do with the actual *duration* (i.e., temporal distance) separating points A and B. This duration, as I've demonstrated above, may vary arbitrarily.

We must recognize that temporal passage is an entirely subjective/personal phenomenon. This passage is simply the result of the brief persistence(s) of an individual mind's non-physical mental states--with each persisting state constituting a briefly persisting "present moment of time." I reiterate here that this passage has absolutely nothing to do with the fourth physical dimension of relativistic theory.

It is an unfortunate choice that we have made to label the fourth physical dimension described above as "geometric-TIME." Indeed, confusion often arises in discussions about time simply because of this inappropriate use of terminology: we refer to the fourth physical dimension as "time" despite the fact that this dimension has absolutely nothing to do with the temporal.

Adhanom Andemicael

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